He was dead before he hit the ground 3100fpsto stabilize it was a hot load. Safari ammunition nosler bullets, brass, ammunition. Any non varmit type bullet from 80gr to 100 will do the job on dear,without going to partition or bonded bullets. Any thoughts on how ballistic tips work on elk sized game300wthby 180gr.
Nosler is a family owned business located in bend, oregon, usa. The front end of the bullet blew up upon impact and the back end continued to penetrate. Slight advantage to the partition a little surprising. The nosler partition is still the benchmark by which all modern bullets are measured. Oct 23, 20 nosler partition is a darn good design and works well, but modern technology has improved bullet design exponentially in the last decade or so. Ballistic tip hunting bullet nosler bullets, brass. Loaded with either the partition or nosler solid and designed for the same point of impact with either bullet, nosler safari.
Nosler designed the partition hunting bullet to combine. The special crimp locks in the rear core section, adding strength to resist deformation under the pressure of heavy magnums. This was a snap shot in woods conditions which typically offers less than ideal shot placement as opposed to a prone position shot. The accubond appears to be an attempt for the bullet to retain weight better but perform like the ballistic tip. Unlike many competing premium bullets that are created by inserting a lead core in a cup and draw formed gilding metal jacket, just like a conventional soft point bullet, nosler bullet.
And yes i do expect what make of bullet that works better in a 3006, and what works better in a 375, probably will not be the same brand bullet. May 24, 2002 ive always shot nosler partition and have been happy. Nosler partition spitzer vs p pt i picked up several boxes of. This is a question bullet manufacturers have asked themselves for over 65 years. Ballistic tips partitions with imr 8208 xbr, and with the ballistic tips it is submoa at 100yds. It is closer to a nosler ballistic tip in performance. Bullet was found between just under the hide on the opposite side. I dont buy barnes bullets since they shafted us hunters in ca by helping instate the non lead bullet. I had the 24 barrel shortened and recrowned to 20 and have found a load with 165gr. Their small flat tip doesnt warp in rifle magazines under recoil, like ordinary spitzers. Nosler ballistic tip ammo is built for hunters pursuing thinskinned game like. In the 300 blk out, they both perform about the same for expansion and penetration. Nosler partition bullets 22 cal 224 diameter 60 grain. The nosler partition was the first serious step forward with regard to premium hunting projectiles.
Is noslers accubond the best, allround hunting bullet. About us careers corrections policy advertise contributor program. Nosler faq what is the difference between the accubond and. Noslers varmint bullets, both ballistic tip and ballistic tip lead free, are. I dont know if this is the same bullet as nosler balistic tip anyway i did use this bullet on reindeer once and it made a hole in the entrance with the size of my head, but it didnt penetrate trough the shoulderblade of the deer. Nosler 30 caliber 170 grain partition round nose overrun 50ct. John nosler famously designed the bullet we now call the nolser partition after. Long before the invention of bonding technology, the dualcore, partitioned jacket design of the partition. For an all around bullet i would go accubond or partition the partition was the original goal. Recently i was unable to find any nosler partition 150gr in.
Bullets can pull forward being in the magazine when a round is fired or if measuring over all length from tip of bullet to base and not from the ogive to base you can stick a bullet in the bore when you go to unload it out in the field. The accubond is a refined version of the partition, inspired by its expansion and penetration characteristics. Bullets can pull forward being in the magazine when a round is fired or if measuring over all length from tip of bullet to base and not from the ogive to base you can stick a bullet in the bore when you go to. Nosler partition, accubond and ballistic tip bullets are truly premium bullets. Barnes ttsx vs nosler accubond their are a couple of things to consider with the accubonds. Polymer accubond vs speer hotcor sp vs nosler partition. I have a 270 wsm and have been shooting 150 grain partition the last few years. What is the difference between the ballistic tip and. Here is a pic of 200 grain accubond beside a 180 etip. Granted i have no firsthand experience with the trophy bonded tip, but even tho ive used bonded bullets for deer, a bonded bullet just aint needed for our southeast whitetails imo. It is a good bullet for deer and pigs out of a 308, without the weaknesses of the bt or sst. That wasnt going to stop nosler and in 1948 the nosler partition bullet company was formed. Modern bonding processes now yield cores on many bullets that dont separate on game penetrate deeply and retain most of their weight which was the problem the partition solved in the first place.
Understand i get noi mean zerosupport from any gun, ammo, or gear maker. I love the partitions, based on my first and following experiences, but i also love the accuracy of the ballistic tips. When i buy a rifle, one of the first bullets i think of is the nosler partition. Mv from the stubby model 7 was around 2770fps, range was around 80 yards, impact.
The ideas behind the nosler partition and the swift a frame are very sound. I didnt pay close attention when i bought them, and i ended up with a few boxes of spitzers 16331, and a couple of p. If you pick up speeds to like a 308 win, and run the lighter bullets, i think the bt is a little softer and will expandfragment easier than the sst. The accubonds seem to penetrate more and do less meat damage on deer sized game. Sierra game king vs nosler ballistic tip the stalking. Buy the nosler partition bullets and more quality fishing, hunting and outdoor gear at bass pro shops. Nosler partition is a darn good design and works well, but modern technology has improved bullet design exponentially in the last decade or so. Todays nosler ammunition continues to make partitioned bullets as. Recovered bullets in the dirt bank behind my 100yd target. My 3006 shoots both well and either should work for what you are doing. So, the next time you reach for a box of bullets, ask yourself, is it as good as a partition. Why is it important that the partition and the solid designed to have same point on impact. Nosler partition vs accubond page 2 shooters forum.
The accubond and partition are very similar in terminal performance, but they differ greatly in internal structure. The original nosler partition spawned the premium bullet business in the u. Even if they lose all of the front portion in front of the partition, you still have 66 percent of the bullet weight behind the partition, plus the expansion of the front part creates large shock wave and transmits energy to the animal. Mar 30, 2011 g nosler partition fired from a 270win into wet newspaper at 50m to see the wound channel and recovered projectile. Partition bullet nosler bullets, brass, ammunition. The question is does anyone have any experiencepreference of the sierra game king vs nosler ballistic tip boat tail bullet heads, im probably keen to stick with a g. Nosler partition bullets 30 cal 308 diameter 180 grain. The sst is a softer bullet and comes apart quicker than the accubond. When neither of my whelens would shoot them i was a bit disappointed. Nosler brass 243 win 50ct nosler brass 7mm08 rem 50ct nosler bulk unprepped brass 223 remington 250ct trophy grade 27 nosler 150gr accubond ammo 20ct 223 remington 55gr ballistic tip varmint ammo 20ct 7. I dont buy barnes bullets since they shafted us hunters in ca by helping instate the non lead bullet ban. My nosler factory load was a 200 grain ab from that has an advertised speed of 2800 fps.
However, there is one nosler i really dont like on deer and that is nosler winchester joint venture balistic tip. In rifles with initial velocities or impact velocities lower than say 2900 fps they flat work. Nosler reloading forum view topic ballistic tip vs partition. Nosler partition bullet frequently asked questions. Everything you need to know about nosler etip ammunition. For years, hunters around the globe have relied on the quality and consistency of nosler bullets. Ive always shot nosler partition and have been happy. According to the data on the hodgdon web site and nosler web site i am a grain under max. I loaded 50 as of the speer and accubond yesterday with the same powder load and the results of the accubond were underwhelming. While the nosler partition remains their flagship round, and is touted as the greatest allaround biggame hunting bullet ever made, its worth comparing its features to the extremely accurate accubond. The full scoop on nosler ballistic tip ammo wide open spaces. Above that they act just like a cup and core which they are, only in two parts and blow up.
The enclosed rear core retains more than half the original bullet weight for deep penetration. Sep 25, 2018 granted i have no firsthand experience with the trophy bonded tip, but even tho ive used bonded bullets for deer, a bonded bullet just aint needed for our southeast whitetails imo. The partition bullet is the original, controlled expansion, design created by john a. Externally, they look the same except for the tip colors, ballistic tip bullets are colorcoded by caliber while all accubond bullets have white. Noslers partition, ballistic tip and accubond bullets are manufactured via impact extrusion rather than the morecommonly encountered cupanddraw method employed by many manufacturers. Since youre using a nosler partition, you are hunting and want to use the magazine, right.
To create online store shopfactory ecommerce software was used. Nosler ballistic tips i am happy with using hodgdons varget. I just wish nosler would start making e tips in 224. Noslers accubond still the doitall hunting bullet skyaboveus. My question is, has anyone had experience with nosler ballistic tip vs. I expect with a more frangible bullet, such as noslers ballistic tip or hornadys sst. Noslerr partition still intact from the partition back. From bad experience you dont want to be anywhere close to the lands with hunting ammo.
John had experienced bullet failure during a moose hunt and resolved to do better. The special crimp locks in the rear core section, adding strength to resist deformation under the. Barnes tsxttsx vs nosler partition long range hunting forum. Hodgdon gets about 100fps more in the whelen with the 225 vs the 250. Nosler reloading forum view topic partition vs accubond. By limiting your choices to nosler you may be trying to put a square peg into a round hole for that particular gun. I like the fact that it is guilding metal so behave just like other bullets made by nosler. The nosler balistic tip gave superior balistics but blew up on impact. Partition same bullet weight, same velocity for penetration, expansion, and clean kill. Any body know the difference between nosler accubond and the federal trophy bonded tip. When it comes to terminal performance on game, the partition is a far better bullet than the ballistic tip and probably the accubond too although the accubond has only been available for a short timetime may tell.
Oct 30, 2017 recently i was unable to find any nosler partition 150gr in. The ballistic tip hunting bullet bt the more you hunt, the more you start to realize how unpredictable and unforgiving nature can be, which is why we engineered the ballistic tip hunting bullet to be very predictable and extremely forgiving. I his a row buck years ago with a 105gr speer psp,in the chest cavity,and it expeled all its energy in the animal 45lbswith pieces of the bullet under the skin on the far side. That same quality and consistency is now available in both 10 and 20 round boxes of nosler safari ammunition.
Nosler 6mm 85 grain partition bullets overrun 50ct. I swapped a couple nps with a guy on campfire for some abs, and 33 shot groups with r12h4895blc2, which all work fantastic with anything else, brought tears to my eyes. If you would read the nosler description of accubond bullets it says they were striving for the accuracy of a ballistic tip and the terminal performance of a partition and ime they got it right i havent hunted with them as yet but in 06s the 150 etip has been giving me good 100 yard accuracy with the new imr enduron powders but i cant. Barnes tsx still weigh what they weigh before shooting. Nosler s integral partition supports the expanded mushroom and retains the rear lead alloy core. Nosler faq what is the difference between the accubond. Switched to nosler accubond polymer tip and found them to be a little to hard which made. Hornady sst vs nosler ballistic tip texas hunting forum. The first time i ever saw a nosler ballistic tip bulletor something like. Designed by john nosler and introduced in 1948, the dualcore nosler partition was the first of the modern american premium bullets.
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